Monday, December 25, 2023

Address but Don't Overhype the Issue of Hindu Casteism to Peddle Anti-Hindu Bias

The executive summary of the "STATE OF WORKING INDIA, 2023," report prepared by the Centre for Sustainable Employment Social Identities and Labour Market Outcomes, Azim Premji University, mentions the following points. 

"In the early 1980s, Scheduled Caste workers were more than 5 times over-represented in waste-related work and over 4 times in leather-related work. 

This has declined rapidly over time, though it is not completely eliminated as of 2021-22. In the leather industry, the representation index declined sharply to 1.4 in 2021. In waste management and sewerage, over-representation of SCs decreased to 1.6 times in 2011."

Reminds me of this statement of Dalit entrepreneur Chandra Bhan    -

"When I saw a Dalit in Bahadurgarh manufacturing cranes with a polytechnic training, I thought India is changing. When I saw a Dalit in Khurja running the biggest sweet shop and people buying sweets from him, while knowing he is Dalit, I thought India is changing. Now Dalits in several parts of India are running good restaurants. People are eating there. So I thought India is changing. So I thought let us go with the change."

Indeed, as much as Dalits are conscious of the historical wrongs they have been - and some of them still are - subjected to (Karna being slurred for being a "sut-putra" and rejected by Draupadi from participating in the swayamvar on that basis in our lore shows how old this rot is), and without in the least undermining how grave some of the hate crimes against Dalits are even today and while acknowledging that a large minority of upper caste Hindus in urban India, especially in the slums, may still consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously believe in caste hierarchies, very many folks today, especially of the current generation and the preceding generation, are completely indifferent to caste (which is good, and the India of today isn't the same as what it was centuries or even decades ago), and there are staunch practising Hindus like Arya Samajis vehemently rejecting caste as a hereditary or hierarchical institution (I've even seen non-Arya Samaji mainstream practising Hindu Brahmin friends from small towns in UP and Rajasthan mingling with and eating from the same plate as their Dalit friends in hostel in my college days in Gujarat), and untouchability is fast disappearing from rural India too, with Dalit political assertion plus genuine broadening of minds of those coming back from the cities (for example, in my house in Delhi, the entire domestic staff used to drink tea prepared by our Pasmanda Muslim cook, who worked for us until recently, without any issues), among other factors.

For all those painting a picture of gloom and doom, here’s something to look at – inter-caste marriages have been on the rise in India (as you can see here and here), even intermarriages between non-Dalit Hindus and Dalits, and more and more young people are open to the same.

Surveys have even shown Dalit students outperforming others in some rural schools. The decreasing relevance of social stigma associated with caste can also be seen from how people from many communities (including the Patidars) are clamouring for the "backward" status to avail of the benefits in college education and government employment it entails, and some people have even faked Scheduled Caste certificates. It also must be noted that discrimination owing to the resentment over well-to-do but less meritorious people being beneficiaries of reservations cannot be equated with discrimination based on believing in casteism, a distinction many tend to blur, though discrimination in either case is unjustified.

Saturday, September 9, 2023

In Defence of Mahatma Gandhi

 Gandhi and Nehru, the two personalities, indeed have never particularly represented or represents any region or caste in the public imagination, the way Patel represents Gujaratis and Ambedkar represents Dalits. But the two have conveniently been made verbal punching bags by Hindu rightists, Muslim rightists, ultra-leftist folks etc. And many people, out of sheer ignorance of facts, have fallen for the lies and half-truths circulated about them. While Gandhi and Nehru are indeed certainly not above criticism, myths still need to be busted, for the secular and democratic constitutional setup they left us with, which cannot be bartered for anything.

 

Without ado, let us get straight onto the myth-busting with respect to Gandhi-

 

Myth 1: He was a British agent out to curb the revolutionaries using violent methods to fight British rule, and it is certain that he did not want to save the life of Bhagat Singh.

 

This is a popular myth being peddled by Gandhi-haters nearly everywhere. The revolutionaries, resorting to individual acts of violence against policemen and other government officials, did not have any coherent countrywide mass presence to stir up an organized rebellion that would drive the British out of India. To unite such a large country in secrecy for having an armed rebellion on Indian soil would have been very difficult in India, and the scenario cannot be equated to Czarist Russia during the First World War, for instance. The only organized armed rebellion since 1857 that occurred was by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose and his Indian National Army (INA) launched from abroad with the help of global powers clashing with Britain.

 

Further, Gandhi’s methodology of struggle wasn’t about dialogue as the Liberal League desired, but of resistance that involved economic boycott. Which led to much economic loss to England including shutting down of textile mills in the country itself and entailed much personal suffering by way of bearing lathi blows and courting imprisonment. The Liberal League maligned Gandhi as an anarchist and strictly supported the policy of only having negotiations. Besides, some people who later in the 1940s, resorted to violence to fight the British, like Jaiprakash Narayan, Rammanohar Lohia and Aruna Asaf Ali. They continued to admire Gandhi and have good relations with him (in spite of his disapproval of their methods) and even invoked his legacy on a number of issues once he was no more. Gandhi himself said that violence was better than cowardice and supported the army action to defend Kashmir in 1947-48. Interestingly, even Bhagat Singh, in spite of his disagreement with Gandhi on a number of issues, did not write off Gandhi’s struggle as being intrinsically worthless or opposed to national interests. Even after adopting violent methods, he participated in a Congress demonstration against the Simon Commission led by Lala Lajpat Rai. In fact, in one of his speeches, Bhagat Singh had given a brilliant analysis of the Swarajist wing of the Congress contesting elections. In his widely acclaimed pamphlet ‘The Philosophy of the Bomb’, he clarified that he and his comrades are not among ‘those who have no regard for the Congress and hope nothing from it’ and it would be ‘grievously’ wrong to think so for him and his comrades ‘fully realise the part played by the Congress in awakening the ignorant masses a keen desire for freedom’ and they ‘expect great things of it in the future’.

 

Bhagat Singh had been conferred the death penalty by the judiciary for his murder of Saunders, and Gandhi’s pact with the Viceroy Lord Irwin certainly did not lead to his hanging.  As for those who desired that Bhagat Singh not be hanged (almost the entire nation), many among them were at the most only expecting a commutation to transportation for life i.e. being sent off to the Andamans, where there was brutal torture and from where few ever returned. It is impossible for anyone to ascertain what Gandhi and Irwin discussed behind closed doors, but what Gandhi and Irwin told the public later was that Gandhi did press for a commutation of the death sentence. Even Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, while representing the left-wing of the Congress at the Karachi session said, “It must be admitted that Gandhi did try his very best”. This is also acknowledged by Kuldip Nayar in his authoritative book on the life of Bhagat Singh, ‘Without Fear’.

 

Unsurprisingly, Irwin did not agree, which is understandable from a British standpoint as leniency towards those who murdered British officers could set a dangerous precedent with life-threatening consequences from the British point of view. Was it worth letting go of the pact for this reason? Perhaps not, for had that been done, we may not have had the Government of India Act, 1935, passed as a consequence of the Second Round Table Conference, which paved the way for the democratic institutions that came to be a part of our constitution after independence. While addressing the INA, Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose proudly recalled how the Congress had governed so well under the Government of India Act, 1935, which proved Indians could govern themselves.

 

 

While Bhagat Singh was undoubtedly a great martyr, there were many other revolutionaries across India who suffered and sacrificed as much. Besides, that some have suffered and sacrificed for the country employing violent means does not necessarily imply a policy of benevolence on their part when they come to power.

 

 

As for conspiracy theories floated by the likes of Marxist writer Hansraj Rahbar about Gandhi being a British agent, Rahbar’s factual contents are often inaccurate. For instance, talking of the Congress moderates being expelled from the party by the extremists in the Surat session in 1907 instead of vice versa, which was actually the case. No official documents or correspondence within the British government anywhere reflect Gandhi being pro-British, and suggest much to the contrary.



Gandhi did favour Indians joining the British war effort in World War I as a diplomatic gesture also because the British officially hinted at greater Indian self-rule in return (which ended in betrayal, leading to Gandhi asking for complete non-cooperation with British rule and heavy economic boycott of British goods), but also because he felt that in order to practise true non-violence, one had to be courageous. He argued that a mouse doesn’t forgive a cat out to eat it, and only when one feels empowered, can non-violent resistance be possible; else, cowards cannot offer any resistance, and he felt that military training would help Indians with the same.

Gandhi wrote-


“And I contend that they will not regain the fearless spirit until they have received the training to defend themselves. Ahimsa was preached to man when he was in full vigour of life and able to look at his adversaries straight in the face. It seems to me that full development of body-force is a sine qua non of full appreciation and assimilation of Ahimsa.”

As Modi-supporter Aravindan Neelakandan has pointed out-

“That Gandhi was aware that this recruitment - a conscious voluntary decision - which also violated the colonial concept of only some Indian communities as 'martial races' would help in having a truly national army for India in the modern era. He wrote:


‘I implicitly believed that if we were to devote our attention exclusively to recruiting, we should gain full responsible government in a year’s time, if not sooner. And instead of allowing our utterly ignorant countrymen to enlist nolens volens, we should get an army of Home Rulers who would be willing soldiers in the knowledge that they will be soldiering for the country’.”



Myth 2: He appeased the religious minorities and helped in the partition of India, being ultra-generous in giving aid to Pakistan.

 

This is a completely baseless allegation. Gandhi opposed the Muslim League as much as he opposed the Hindu Mahasabha, as Prof. Makarand Paranjape, a supporter of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, has pointed out in considerable detail in his acclaimed book The Death and Afterlife of Mahatma Gandhi. While his support to the Khilafat Movement was a miscalculation, he was steadfast in his opposition to the partition. However, when a very vast number of Indian Muslims desired partition at any cost, leading to rioting in places like Calcutta in 1946, there was no alternative. They would have continued fighting for it even after independence and any attempt to prevent partition by fasting unto death would have only escalated violence. So, he deployed that weapon effectively to maintain communal harmony instead.

 

Contrary to what some suggest, Gandhi never opposed the deployment of police forces to quell the Moplah riots earlier in the 1920s. He condemned the Muslim rioters (in his article in 'Young India' dated 27th October 1921, he called the Moplah violence "tyranny" and "terrorism"), and he only reminded them that they violated the tenets of their own religion, by declaring - "The Mussalmans must naturally feel the shame and humiliation of the Mopla conduct about forcible conversions and looting, and they must work away so silently and effectively that such a thing might become impossible even on the part of the most fanatical among them." (Indeed, the Quran has many verses preaching peace, religious tolerance and human brotherhood like 2:256, 5:2, 5:8, 5:32, 6:108, 6:151, 49:13, 60:8 and 109:6; those suggesting that peaceful verses in the Holy Quran are superseded by violent verses, which the vast majority of practising Muslims globally regarded as contextual, would actually do well to note that verse 109:6 appears towards the end of the book, and preaches nothing but peace.) He also appealed to the nation at large to not stereotype all Muslims for the acts of some (indeed, some Malayali Muslims protected Hindus in those riots too), which was necessary to prevent further rioting elsewhere in the country. He wanted to visit Kerala too to personally campaign for peace, but was disallowed by the British government from doing so. The Congress had passed this resolution – “The Congress deplores the acts done by certain Moplahs by way of forcible conversions and destruction of life and property, and is of the opinion that prolongation of the disturbance in Malabar could have been prevented by the Govt of Madras accepting the proffered assistance of Maulana Yakub Hassan and allowing Gandhi to proceed to Malabar.” Yes, when initially news of the anti-British Moplah uprising came to light without details of attacks on Hindus coming in, Gandhi, while distancing himself from violence, accepted it as a legitimate struggle against imperialism, and that one statement of his has been quoted out of context to malign him, and interestingly, not all the Moplah rebels were anti-Hindu, some even taking along Hindus without converting them to fight the British!


To my mind, there is no doubt that Islamism (right-wing political Islam) is the biggest ideological threat of our times to human rights values globally the way Nazism was once, but just as genocidal hatred of Germans did not lead to Nazism’s defeat, but in fact, the support of anti-Nazism Germans did, liberal and moderate Muslims valuing humanity (see, for example, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this, nor is it the case that such Muslims are necessarily either apostates of Islam or highly ignorant of their scriptures, them doing their own contextual interpretation of the Islamic scriptures, as discussed here), who need not be seen as exotic exceptions, should not be alienated, and one should not become the monster one wishes to defeat. Other than taking due legal action against specific Muslim extremists violating the law (something I wholeheartedly support), neither genocidal hatred nor generalised repression of Muslims (which will boost Muslim extremism, nor are, as mentioned earlier, Muslims alone in some of them getting radicalised in the wake of being subjected to genocidal hatred) nor denigration of the Islamic scriptures (which will lead to moderate practising Muslims**** insisting that the problematic aspects in the Muslim extremists’ version of Islam are misinterpretations*****, and if this criticism comes not from atheists or agnostics but from active practitioners of other faiths, Muslims will cite the seemingly controversial aspects from the scriptures of those other faiths, leading to more of often ugly theological debates and less of any resolution of any actual problem on the ground) nor offering bordering-on-support sympathy to Muslim extremism, portraying only Muslims as perennial victims in a melodramatic fashion (as I have discussed herehereherehere and here), can solve the problem of Muslim extremism - only promoting reform among Muslims with an appeal to humanistic rationality and a liberal interpretation of the Islamic scriptures, while standing with Muslims for their genuine human rights concerns, can. If it is argued that reform is impossible in Muslim societies, it may be noted that Muslim women in South Asia have moved from being largely confined to the household in the 19th century to now Katrina Kaifs, Sheikh Hasinas and Hina Rabbani Khars. About how reform is possible in Muslim societies, examples can be cited of Kasim Hafeez, who initially wanted to become a terrorist seeking to blow up Jewish civilians but later changed his standpoint to standing for Jews’ human rights and the Israeli state’s right to exist, after visiting Israel (though still squarely not exactly becoming an uncritical admirer of all Israeli state policies), while still remaining a practising Muslim, and also Majid Nawaz, who, from being a terrorist earlier, has now turned into a Muslim reformer facing death-threats from Muslim extremists. Psychological deradicalisation techniques that successfully worked on Nazis have even worked with jihadists on several occasions, as you can see here, here, here and here. Morocco has banned the veil (while I support anyone’s right to don a headscarf out of support for personal liberty, I disagree with the same for veiling, for not only is it regressive in the extreme but is also a security hazard, with even men donning veils to commit crimes like theft, but being almost unrecognisable even in CCTV footage, full-body veils making you much more unrecognisable than face-masks, and indeed, a cultural Muslim like Javed Akhtar has also supported banning the veil!), Tunisia and the UAE have come to recognise marriages between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman (as you can see here and here), Sudan has banned female genital mutilation and unilateral and arbitrary triple talaq was indeed abolished in most Muslim-majority countries (including Pakistan) before India. Thus, it would be incorrect to say that Muslim societies cannot reform. Indeed, there are already full-fledged Muslim-majority secular democracies like Albania [that has been tolerant to Jews (as you can see here and here) and legalised homosexuality (something all Muslim legislators in Germany also voted in favour of) and euthanasia] and Senegal, which can be held up as role models.


Another myth is that Gandhi wanted the king of Afghanistan to invade India and bring it under Islamic rule. This is again a false allegation.
In May–June 1919, the Afghans and the British had fought a bloody war ending in 2,000 casualties, both Afghan and British-Indian, before a peace treaty was signed. Towards the end of 1919, Gandhi had also begun mobilizing support from Hindus and Muslims for the Non-Cooperation Movement. In a Young India article on 4 May 1921, Gandhi wrote he would ”in a sense, certainly assist the Amir of Afghanistan, if he waged war against the British Government. That is to say, I would openly tell my countrymen that it would be a crime to help a Government which had lost the confidence of a nation to remain in power.” In the same article, Gandhi clarified what he meant: that the British government often used geopolitics and “the Afghan bogey” to deny independence to India, and thus “kept us under the perpetual fear of our neighbours and the whole world, and drained India of her splendid resources, so that she has lost faith in herself either for defence or for dealing with the simple problem of the growing poverty”.

Even during the partition riots, among the first places visited by Gandhi was Noakhali where Hindus were being targeted by Muslim extremists.

 

 

And during the Direct Action Day riots, he was almost killed by a Muslim, but his excellent rendition of a Quranic verse Surah Fateha made that Muslim become his disciple. When Gandhi visited Muslims in a relief camp in the Old Fort in Delhi during the partition riots, he was greeted with slogans of “Gandhi Murdabad!” He was certainly not admired by communal Muslims, as much as he is accused of siding with them according to sections of the Hindu right.

 

Mahatma Gandhi’s emphasis on protecting Indian Muslims who desired to stay back in India can be justified on two grounds – one was that many Indian Muslims had genuinely opposed the partition. And the second, that Gandhi wished to create an “idea of India” which was inclusive unlike Pakistan or Nazi Germany.

 

As for all those advancing the contention that all Muslims should have been expelled from India at the time of the partition (for which Muslims born in India after 1947 still cannot in the least be blamed even by this bigoted line of argumentation), it is essential to understand that that would have involved ceding Pakistan more territory and resources, resulting in even more Hindu displacement, and basing the very idea of nationhood on exclusionary lines has never worked well for any country. It may also be noted that even in the 1940s, there were secular Muslims subscribing to the idea of a united India (not just some theocratic-minded clerics seeking large-scale religious conversion and an orthodox Islamic agenda for the whole of undivided India but even genuinely liberal Muslims defying them*), some of whom like Allah Baksh, Maqbool Sherwani and Shoebullah Khan were martyred opposing Jinnah’s two-nation theory (and they were indeed right, given that Muslims killing each other in sectarian, linguistic and extreme theocracy-moderate theocracy-secularism clashes in Pakistan enjoy lesser security of life and property and given its completely sham democracy, lesser civil liberties and even worse economic prospects than Muslims in India). The Congress of the freedom struggle all along opposed the idea of partition on the ground that India would be for all Indians, who would be given equal rights, irrespective of religion. Therefore, to do a sudden U-turn on the part of the Congress and change its standpoint of India being for Indians of all religious groupings on the eve of the partition would have validated the Muslim League's rather nonsensical allegations before the world. More importantly, an India that denies itself to some Indian citizens may go down the slippery slope to be denied to all Indian citizens with puritans trying to define “Indian-ness”. We've seen how countries like Germany, Myanmar, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka, which chose the path of exclusion, lost their democratic character with thekedars of the majority community certifying who a “true” citizen is, even from within the majority community, to snuff out all dissent on any matter at all (and how important retaining democracy is, is explained by the authoritarian Chinese state’s suppressing news of the coronavirus pandemic showed how Chinese citizens and the rest of humanity had to pay a price for lack of democratic accountability there) and/or got embroiled in civil war. Since independence, many Indian Muslims have indeed served Indian national interests well as diplomats as also in the security forces and the intelligence agencies, even in foiling the Pakistani deep state’s nefarious designs, and even otherwise contributing to nation-building by way of social and ecological service, and there is no rational basis to categorise Muslim citizens of India with a clear sense of loyalty to the country as being completely exotic exceptions within their religious grouping in India [if someone is more comfortable with 'Jai Hind' rather than 'Vande Mataram' for he/she can respect, but not bow before or worship anyone other than God Almighty, be it his/her own parents or the motherland, based on his/her religious convictions, so be it, if he/she is otherwise a law-abiding citizen (bowing before graves of Sufi saints is also seen by many law-abiding, moderate Muslims as un-Islamic) and a green flag with a crescent is a flag of Islam, like a saffron flag is a flag of Hinduism or a blue flag with a discus is a flag of Ambedkarite Buddhism; a green flag with a crescent is NOT a flag of Pakistan, unless accompanied by a white strip to the left], as though Indian Muslims are guilty of being anti-national until proven innocent. As much as just like many Indian Tamils wanting the Indian state to harbour complete antipathy to the Sri Lankan state, even if it goes against Indian national interests, and many Indian Gorkhas wanting unconditional friendship with the Nepalese state even as it makes absurd claims on Indian territory, many Indian Muslims do have a strong affinity to non-Indians sharing their religious identity, like the Palestinian Muslims, and therefore, want the Indian state to harbour complete antipathy to the Israeli state, unfortunately complicating Indian strategic and economic interests owing to vote-bank considerations, and some Indian Jews born and raised in India prefer to serve in the Israeli military rather than the Indian military, something such people from all these communities (who still can't be called overall anti-India) must ponder over when they want the rest of the Indian nation to care very much for them as fellow citizens, and it may also be mentioned that there are Indian-origin far-right Hindus living and working in Muslim-majority and Christian-majority countries, sometimes even acquiring their citizenship (while Arab countries don’t usually confer citizenship to expats, even if Muslims, many Indian-origin Hindus have become citizens of Muslim-majority countries like Malaysia and Indonesia), but with hatred of Muslims and Christians, wanting their own security as minorities but shamefully not for Muslim and Christian minorities in India, but in any case, whatever one’s peacefully held views, however problematic, no one ought to be subjected to unlawful violence, any tolerance of which only paves the way for a breakdown of the rule of law. While national patriotism is often the last refuge of many a scoundrel, as some would argue is the case with Gautam Adani, trying to portray foreign research on his alleged wrongdoings as an attack on India, healthy national patriotism is necessary till national borders remain a reality, and just as we care for the security and prosperity of our household (which is not to say that we are inhuman towards those in other households), our nation-states remain our larger homes, and if we want the state framework to deliver for us, we too should be invested in the same, especially with a democratic framework. While the dynamics of a conflict zone like Kashmir are different and there have also indeed been some non-Kashmiri Indian Muslims who have cheered for Pakistan over India in cricket and hockey matches based on religious affiliation, overall, there is no evidence to suggest that they represent the Indian Muslim sentiment at large. In fact, a Hindu acquaintance of mine, who studied at Aligarh Muslim University (AMU)**, told me that while those cheering for Pakistan in cricket were quite a vocal lot there, the vast majority of Muslims did cheer for India, and this was in a Muslim-majority setting where the apparently pro-India majority did not have to conceal its true feelings, and another friend of mine, who is an Assamese Hindu from Guwahati and who is very resentful of the illegal Bangladeshi Muslim influx in his state, told me that on a train journey, he overheard a conversation between two Muslims from AMU bashing the students who cheer for Pakistan. Also, another friend of mine, whose father is an Indian Army officer, once told me that he loves the Muslim community (though I don’t support any stereotyping, positive or negative!), for once, his father was fired at by militants in Kashmir and his father’s driver, a Muslim, rushed to bear the bullet to save his father’s life! He also narrated another anecdote of how a Muslim officer once donated blood to save his father’s life and my friend asserted that he was not in the least ashamed of the fact that “Muslim blood” (whatever that is supposed to mean!) runs through his veins! Just to be clear, I do not particularly advocate looking at national heroes and heroines through the prism of their religious identity, nor do I necessarily attribute such heroism to the religion such heroes/heroines were/are born into or chose/choose to subscribe to (to take an example, the great freedom fighter Obaidullah Sindhi, who opposed the politics of the Muslim League, was a convert to Islam from Sikhism, and late RSS-BJP leader KR Malkani, in his book The Sindh Story, has acknowledged Obidullah’s secular outlook), but only to clarify that people of no religious identity should be negatively stereotyped, and it must be mentioned that there is actually room for interpretation of Islamic scriptures in conformity with humanism and secular national patriotism, even holding interests of fellow countrymen of other faiths over foreign co-religionists, to which many devout Muslims subscribe. Also, like with other communities, there are Muslims who may be rational on some issue from our standpoint and irrational or biased on another, but so long as they are not committing any heinous crime, they ought not to be dehumanised.

 
It is essential to distinguish between a Yasin Bhatkal and an APJ Abdul Kalam, a Mumtaz Qadri and a Salman Taseer, an Aurangzeb and a Dara Shikoh, a Burhan Wani and a Maqbool Sherwani, a Jinnah and an Ashfaqullah Khan. Otherwise, should all Sikhs and Tamils be hated for the actions of Khalistanis and LTTE respectively? It is evident how unfair and counterproductive Hindu extremism is to fighting Muslim extremism, which is only pushing more and more moderate Muslims to radicalism, other than taking the country as a whole in a fascist direction by interfering with people's civil liberties.

 

Anyway, as for those ringing alarm-bells about Muslim demographics in India, it may be noted that overall, the Muslim population growth rate has been declining in India with greater access to education, something acknowledged for Indians across religious lines even by India’s current foreign minister S. Jaishankar from the BJP, and there is much regional disparity, with the population growth rate of say, Muslims in Kerala being less than that of Hindus in Uttar Pradesh owing to the former, as an aggregate whole, being more educated, and the Muslim-majority Union Territories of J&K and Lakshadweep have among the lowest fertility rates among Indian states and Union Territories. And yes, even otherwise, if someone sees Muslims potentially outnumbering Hindus in India as a real problem, they should appeal to the Indian government to legally impose a two-child norm for all Indian citizens, irrespective of religion (private member bills by BJP members aside, the Modi government has not yet endorsed the idea of such a legislative proposal), which will make it completely impossible for Muslims to outnumber Hindus*** and is, in any case, much-needed given the strain on resources (our overpopulation is something that was also pointed out by Congress leader Manish Tiwari in the wake of the shortage of hospital beds during the first wave of the coronavirus pandemic, and Congress leader Abhishek Manu Singhvi too prepared such a private member bill), and there is no naivete or purblind sentimentalism in pointing out that randomly rioting against or lynching some average Muslims, which can indeed even provoke a counter-reaction, is neither a fair nor a sensible way of dealing with the supposed demographic threat!

 

 

Attempts on Gandhi’s life had been made on several occasions even before the idea of partition surfaced, by Marathi Brahmin extremists who had everything to lose from Gandhi’s non-casteist, secular political ideology, as elaborated in the indeed very well-researched book Gandhi ki Shahadat by Jagan Fadnis.


As for being ultra-generous in giving aid to Pakistan, Pakistan had waged war (not officially) against the then sovereign princely state of J&K before its accession to India, not against India, and Pakistan would have won against India had India defaulted on its agreed upon payment of 55 crore rupees to settle the partition accounts.

 


While Gandhi did stay clear of debates surrounding violence by Muslim extremists over alleged blasphemy, hesitant to uphold freedom of speech hurting religious sentiments lest it divide the society further and sometimes made extreme pacifist statements about resisting Islamist violence by complete non-violence, when the partition riots erupted, he did ask Hindus to take to violence in self-defence if the need be, as acclaimed historian Rajmohan Gandhi has acknowlewdged in his biography of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, and this fact has been acknowledged by RSS chief MS Golwalkar as well, in his book A Bunch of Thoughts. To quote Golwalkar-


“Once when the Muslims went on a rampage and attacked the Hindus in Ahmedabad, the Hindus began fleeing from their hearths and homes. Gandhiji castigated them saying, ‘Why are you behaving like cowards? You take my name and repeat the word ahimsa parrot-like and run for your life under that shelter. My non-violence is not of the cowards, it is of the brave. Instead of running away in such a cowardly fashion it would be far better for you to fight, to kill or get killed’.”



When Pathan tribal raiders started looting people in J&K across religious lines and raping and killing non-Muslims in J&K, Mahatma Gandhi did support Indian Atrmy action in Kashmir.  


Gandhi even wrote and spoke much on Christian missionaries employing financial incentives to convert people to their faith. He deemed the practise as unethical and condemned but was not in the least against Christianity as faith or Christians in general.

 

 

 

 

 

Myth 3:  Gandhi Favoured Nehru as India’s PM because Nehru was his stooge.

 

 

Firstly, Nehru had serious differences with Gandhi over a host of issues, from Gandhi’s usage of religious symbols to economic development models to Nehru’s objection to the idea of seeking Dominion Status before complete independence. Also, many passages in Nehru’s autobiography border on mocking some of Gandhi’s ideas, written during Gandhi’s lifetime.

 

Gandhi chose Nehru to become prime minister because, as Ramachandra Guha points out-

 

“(Nehru) most reliably reflected the pluralist, inclusive idea of India that the Mahatma stood for. The alternatives — Patel, Rajaji, Azad, Kripalani, Rajendra Prasad — had, by contrast, somewhat sectional interests and affiliations. But Nehru was a Hindu who could be trusted by Muslims, a U.P. wallah who was respected in the South, a man who was admired by women — like Gandhi, and like no one else, he was a genuinely all-India leader.”

Rajaji was indeed known for his sexist outlook, him being uncomfortable with female legislators, civil servants and constitution-framers. As for Patel, he did have some degree of bias against Muslims, as reflected by Patel suggesting that it was all right for some Hindus to feel averse to hosting Muslim in their own homes for Muslims are meat-eaters, and Gandhi countered him by pointing to the fact that very many Hindus and non-Muslims globally do consume meat. This dialogue has been recorded by Gandhi’s private secretary Mahadev Desai. Patel also once inaugurated a Hindu-only swimming pool when the Congress was strongly opposing not only separate electorates but inter-religious sporting events (notably in cricket) and any segregation in non-religious public places on the basis of religion. Patel also clearly had a racist worldview even when it came to fellow Indian citizens from Northeast India, even though his Congress party had several leaders of the freedom struggle from there, like Moje Riba from the present-day Arunachal Pradesh. In a letter Patel wrote to Nehru in November 1950 (much before the Sino-Indian War of 1962), he mentioned-

 

“China is no longer divided.  It is united and strong… All along the Himalayas in the north and northeast, we have on our side of the frontier a population ethnologically and culturally not different from Tibetans and Mongoloids. The undefined state of the frontier and the existence on our side of a population with its affinities to the Tibetans or Chinese have all the elements of potential trouble between China and ourselves… The people inhabiting these portions have no established loyalty or devotion to India. Even Darjeeling and Kalimpong areas are not free from pro-Mongoloid prejudices… Bhutan is comparatively quiet, but its affinity with Tibetans would be a handicap.”

 

Ironically, Tibetans became hostile to China after the withdrawal of autonomy, with Bhutan emerging as India’s great friend! Darjeeling and Kalimpong have had internal issues with West Bengal, but no anti-India secessionist sentiment of any consequence, and Gorkhas from these regions have a stellar record of contribution to the Indian Army, even in the Sino-Indian War of 1962. Also, Sardar Patel was completely wrong in saying that the culture of India’s northeast is the same as that of the Chinese and the Tibetans! Moreover, as noted Indophilic Myanmarese writer Thant Myint-U points out, even secessionists in regions like Nagaland, Manipur, Mizoram and Meghalaya have no great love for China. He mentions-

 

“…there is no indication that people in the Northeast have any desire to come under Chinese domination.  Militant groups have received Chinese training and support, at least in the past, but this was done opportunistically and not out of any special affinity to Beijing.”

 

In fact, he mentions that he noticed among them, “a sense of dread that, with China’s growing stature and influence”, the little ethnic communities “caught between ‘India proper’ and China would find it harder, not easier, to maintain their separate identities and traditions.”

 

Another instance that can be quoted in this regard to demonstrate the northeasterners having no special affinity to China is an extract from the renowned novel Bitter Wormwood by noted Naga novelist Easterine Kire, which is stated hereunder (all the characters here are Naga)-

 

“The two of them kept turning the knobs.  They first listened to some songs and them to more news broadcasts.  There were about four channels they could listen to.  One was a Chinese station where a woman spoke very rapidly in Chinese.  Mother and son laughed uproariously at that because they couldn’t understand a word of what she was saying.  Even the static made them giggle.  Eventually, they made a habit of tuning the radio into the station where news was broadcast in English.

 

Patel was also narrow-minded on the language question, insisting that South Indian and North Indian must learn Hindi. The speech he delivered in Madaras (Chennai) on 12th February 1949, his opening words were- "You want me to talk to you in English. I shall obey your command, but take it from me that it will not be long before you yourselves will have to speak in our national language. If you do not do that, you will drag the country backwards. We have to exert our maximum effort to go forward. Unless you do that, I am afraid, you will suffer.

 

This attitude led to civil war in our neighbouring countries like Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Indeed, Indians who are not native Hindi-speakers find it unfair that native Hindi speakers should get en edge over them in government recruitments.

 

While Nehru is often blamed for his management of Kashmir, it was Patel who didn't take any initiatives to integrate J&K like other princely states and he didn't act even on a letter from Nehru warning of Pakistani intrusion (which did happen in October 1947) and speaking of plebiscite offers, that's how Patel integrated Hyderabad and Junagadh by claiming popular support as opposed to the rulers' will and conducting plebiscites; so, that wasn't Nehru’s blunder either, and it was thanks to Nehru’s UN intervention that Pakistan was labeled as the aggressor and asked to vacate POK, only after which a plebiscite is to be conducted in the whole of the erstwhile princely state! were it not for Nehru, Jammuite, Ladakhi and Kashmiri non-Muslims would have started suffering much greater oppression and persecution since 1947.

 

In any case, Patel passed away in 1950, and even had he been the prime minister, he inevitably been succeeded by Nehru, making this debate futile to a great extent. Further, as Praveen Davar has pointed out- “Patel himself knew that Nehru was far more popular than him amongst the masses and hence never faulted the Mahatma for the choice of his heir and successor. He was also big enough to say to the American journalist Vincent Shean with reference to a huge crowd of nearly 3 million that had come to hear him and Nehru in Bombay: 'They come for Jawahar, not for me'.”

 

 

Myth 4:  He was anti-Dalit.

 

To completely reject hierarchical caste identities as irrelevant and support intercaste marriages took Gandhi time till the 1930s. He fought for Dalit rights, spent time in Dalit colonies and accommodated them in his ashram. However, he did not see eye to eye with Ambedkar’s politics of separate electorates.

There were many Dalits in and backed by the Congress, like Jagjivan Ram and Balu, who preferred Gandhi’s approach to fighting untouchability based on rationalism and a humanistic understanding of Hinduism over Ambedkar’s aggressive identity politics. Though the Hindu right has tried to appropriate the legacy of Ambedkar, as it has tried to appropriate the legacies of Bhagat Singh and SC Bose, Ambedkar was critical of Hinduism as faith, not getting entangled in whether untouchability was a misinterpretation, and converted to Buddhism. It is true that he did criticize Muslim societies over a number of issues, but he was happy cooperating with the communal Muslim League on a number of occasions, including even Jinnah’s infamous call for “direct action” as Arun Shourie has pointed out in his book Worshipping False Gods.

 

Interestingly, the inspiration for leaders of oppressed people fighting for justice elsewhere globally, like Martin Luther King (Jr.) and Nelson Mandela was Gandhi and not Ambedkar.

 

 

 Myth 5: He was a Hindu extremist.

 

This is indeed an absolutely ridiculous idea floated by Muslim communalists. The Mahatma was an admirer of Prophet Muhammad (and I may add, the Quran; he knew the Arabic language and often read the Quran in its original text in that language). Some accuse Gandhi of having made certain negative generalizations about Muslims as people, which may seem to be the case if seen out of context. However, it is necessary to understand that Gandhi clarified time and again that Islam stood for peace and tolerance, and though many Muslims were aggressive, it was because of the sociological factor of a minority psychosis and as for Muslims of non-Indian ancestry, for having descended from nomadic warrior societies. Gandhi also said that the Sikhs were an aggressive lot for their own historical reasons, and going by history, even Christianity had a bloody record, but “not because Jesus was found wanting, but because the environment in which it spread was not responsive to his lofty teaching”.

 

Gandhi did acknowledge that Islam had produced great soldiers of non-violence. In a speech he delivered at Calcutta (now Kolkata) to a gathering of Indian Christians, he made it a point to mention the following, even though it was not particularly warranted since the speech was on Christianity and non-violence –

 

“In my opinion, it is not true to say that Islam is a religion of the sword.  History does not bear that out.”

 

In this context, he was referring not only to India but Arab and Kurdish Muslims with a tolerant outlook.

 

Some of Gandhi’s closest comrades happened to be devout Muslims like Maulana Azad (also a victim of much false propaganda) and Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan (the latter is known as Frontier Gandhi, who was hated by Muslim Leaguers for having opposed the partition and spent much time in Pakistani jails after the partition).

 

In fact, in Gandhi’s case, he continued to plead for peace between Hindus and Muslims till his last breath, risking his life going to riot-affected areas, appealing for peace to save Muslims’ lives which Jinnah never did, and his very last fast, which was to be unto death, was to stop the killings of innocent Muslims in Delhi, and his prayer meetings included verses from the Quran in spite of protests by Hindu extremists. He did not abandon his tolerance, in spite of being aware of the threat to his life from Hindu (and Muslim) extremists, and it was his strong commitment to ensuring that Muslims who chose to stay back in India get their due that cost him his life. His killer was a Hindu extremist, who, during his trial, accused Gandhi of being a Muslim-appeaser.

 

As a leading historian, Irfan Habib mentioned in a lecture at Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) referring to the period of the partition riots-

 

“Only one man seemed to stand forth to prevent the destruction of this University and massacres of Muslims in western Uttar Pradesh, and that was Mahatma Gandhi. He was insulted when he went to Muslim refugee camps at Jama Masjid and he was insulted when he went to Hindu refugee camps! Day in and day out, he suffered insults. On 13th January 1948, he went on fast. And what were the demands of the fast? One was that Muslims must be protected and those people who had been leading mobs against Muslims must sign that they would not do such thing again. And there were names of RSS and Hindu Mahasabha leaders in his list.”

 

That Gandhi is despised by extreme communalists of all hues demonstrates his impartiality!

 

 Myth 6: He was racist.

The legacy of Gandhiji lately suffered a backlash with the charge of racism when one of his statues was removed in December 2018, from a university in Ghana after students rallied against it. All because they said that the mahatma was a ‘racist’.  A statue of the leader was also protested against in California and another one was vandalised in South Africa. This allegation was attributed to the letters written by a younger Gandhi wherein he had used derogatory slurs for the native blacks of South Africa who were his fellow inmates in prison in South Africa.

Like all human beings, Gandhi’s view evolved over time, and initially, he indeed did harbour some racial prejudices but he also, in due course outgrew them. That he did, as a 24-year old in South Africa, while locked up in jail, used racial slurs for black criminals who were his fellow inmates, cannot be the benchmark of understanding Gandhi’s views on the race question in a holistic sense. Indeed, not only did Gandhi in private letters, exhibit some degree of disdain for the blacks, he openly, in a letter to the Natal parliament in 1893 and in a petition in 1895, as also in a speech in Mumbai in 1896 and in a writing in 1904, exhibits his racist bias. However, at a later stage, from 1908 onwards, Gandhi had by now overcome his prejudices and 18th May 1908, in a speech in Johannesburg, referring specifically to Africans, Asians, Europeans and the mixed: “If we look into the future, is it not a heritage we have to leave to posterity, that all the different races commingle and produce a civilisation that perhaps the world has not yet seen?” In 1928, the first English edition of ‘Satyagraha in South Africa’ was published in which he expressed his admiration for the South African blacks, calling them ‘the tallest and the most handsome’ race in South Africa, admiring their ‘black skin shining like ebony’. He urged his fellow Indians “to steer clear of all narrow and one-sided conceptions of beauty, and be free from the improper sense of shame and dislike we feel for our own complexion if it is anything but fair’”, which clearly shows how his views had evolved from 1908 onwards. After all, if he is branded as racist for what he said before 1908, why should anti-racist view from 1908 onward not be factored in, especially given that he earned the title of ‘Mahatma’ only after returning to India in 1915?

By the 1930s, so impressed was Gandhi by African American interest in the idea of peaceful resistance that in February 1936, he said to Howard Thurman, the African-American thinker, who was calling on him in Bardoli in Gujarat: “Well, if it comes true it may be through the African Americans that the unadulterated message of non-violence will be delivered to the world.”

Myth 7: He was a supporter of the capitalist classes, wanting to prevent the peasantry and workers from getting their rights.

Ironically, it was Gandhi, more than anyone else, who made the Congress a mass organization. He did not support an aggressively leftist economic agenda, and his idea of trusteeship was utopian.  But aggressive Marxism has come to be rejected even in Cuba and China, for the private competition is indeed what incentivizes good quality production of goods and services. Prof. Makarand Paranjape has documented his discomfort with the palatial house Birla gave him in Delhi, quite unlike his humble ashram in Ahmedabad, and personally modestly stayed in only a part of it. Yes, he took corporate funding for his mass movements, but how was he to run such huge mass campaigns otherwise? Don’t all socio-political movements even today largely take funding from sympathetic corporates?!

Myth 8:  About Gandhi’s sexual practices

Gandhi did take to sexual practices that fit the textbook definition of adultery, admitting that these were slips from his vow of celibacy in his personal experiments with the truth. However, he made no secret of the same, and one can criticize him for the same, but one cannot accuse him of being intellectually dishonest.

 

Mahatma Gandhi, arguably the greatest man of the 20th century, a man who shook an empire without the use of force, and gave the peasants of Champaran justice. A man whose frugal lifestyle is hard to emulate by anyone who wishes to do the same to show off. A man who brought millions of  Indians, irrespective of religious affiliation and regional denomination, together to fight for a cause and removed the fear of prison from their minds. A man who saw the evils in state centralization much before it had virtually destroyed India’s economy and disintegrated a superpower. A man who rightly continuously advocated the importance of direct economic upliftment in the villages as opposed to the theory of ‘trickle-down effect’, which has failed. A man who rightly understood the need for social reforms such as the eradication of untouchability, low status of women, child marriage and drinking and drug addiction. A man who saw the harmful consequences of big technology on the environment, and asserted that the earth has enough for everyone’s need but not for everyone’s greed, much before international leaders started talking about ‘sustainable development’ and signed so many protocols and international conventions related to the same. A man who truly understood the nature of parliamentary democracy, which rightly in his opinion was a fish-market with rival elites contesting for power. He also asserted that for democracy to be successful, people must be disciplined and enlightened. A man who showed the world the mettle of Indian civilization.

 

But indeed, no man is perfect, and the same is true for this mahatma. While his concept of a struggle based on truth and non-violence is very much relevant in the context of social reforms, which can actually only come about with the genuine change of heart. The same is not true for politics, which is a power game, and a change of heart can be brought about in individuals, but not in an establishment like a colonial power. It is silly to expect all the millions of Indian people to stay non-violent when their kith and kin were being shot dead by the police, and only a few fetish acts of violence like the one at Chauri Chaura made Gandhi call off the Non-Cooperation Movement. Also, his hope that the British would grant autonomy to India if we supported them in World War I was rather impractical. His calling Jinnah ‘Qaid-e-Azam’ or the supreme leader of the Muslim world when his party members were losing to Muslim Congressmen in provincial elections and rejecting Subash Chandra Bose’s offer of weakening the Muslim League in Bengal when it had formed a coalition with the Krishak Praja Party cost India dear and the ‘direct action’ of the Muslim League led to partition. His concepts of ‘individual satyagraha’ (to not embarrass Britain’s war effort) and joint trusteeship of capitalists and workers were most impractical. Gandhi’s Khilafat Movement also failed to give reactionary Muslims a modern, secular approach to politics as was evident from the Moplah riots in Kerala, and it was a greater embarrassment for Gandhi when Turkish revolutionaries like Mustafa Kemal Pasha abolished the very institution of the Caliph in favour of secular democracy.  It is also a misconception that India owes its independence directly to Gandhi – Britain’s financial weakness after World War II, coupled with pressure from the new superpowers (USA and USSR) led to the decolonization process the world over, and the reason for India’s speedy independence after the war was the series of revolts in the Armed Forces after the INA trial.

 

But, rather than levelling healthy criticism against Gandhi for these valid points, much of the criticism against Gandhi we hear of is unfortunately communal in nature.

At long last, I would like to leave the readers to ponder over some quotations of Gandhi-

 

“Real disarmament cannot come unless the nations of the world cease to exploit one another.”

 

“I do not want my house to be walled in on all sides and my windows to be stuffed. I want the cultures of all lands to be blown about my house as freely as possible. But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any.”  (implying that we should be open to good influences from other cultures while retaining our own cultural identity)

 

“A disciplined and enlightened democracy is the best thing in the world.”

 

“Law is not to make black white or white black but to enthrone justice.”

 

“Be the change you want to see in the world.”

 

“Three quarters of the miseries and misunderstandings in the world would finish if people were to put on the shoes of their adversaries and understood their points of view.”

 

“An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.”


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Interestingly, there are practising and cultural Muslims even in contemporary times who have been vocal for a gender-just, religion-neutral uniform family law (uniform civil code) for Indians across religious lines, without hair-splitting debates on interpreting scriptures or examining age-old customs on questions of legal rights. Public figures among them have included former president Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam and even others very critical of the BJP like actor Saif Ali Khan, columnist Tariq Ansari, activist Laila Tyabji and academician Sadaf Munshi, a position shared even by historians Romila Thapar (I do have my strong disagreements with her on very many other matters) and Ramachandra Guha very opposed to the BJP. Indeed, I too support the passage of a uniform civil code, rejecting waiting for some elusive consensus from orthodox patriarchs at the expense of our female citizens’ rights, and issues of personal laws clashing with modern human rights values keep cropping up not only for Muslims, but also Hindus (as you can see here, here, here, here and here), Christians, Zoroastrians (as you can see here, here and here) and Jews, and a uniform civil code in line with the fundamental rights of Indian citizens under the constitution can close that matter, undermining regressive clergy. I do believe that more and more Indians of minority religious groupings should come out in support of a uniform civil code to demonstrate their genuine commitment to Indian constitutional values (like gender equality in this context) in a spirit of shared Indian nationhood rather than invoking them only against Hindu majoritarianism. Also, tax exemptions given to Hindu Undivided Families (HUFs) should be made available to similarly structured Indian family businesses of all religious groupings.



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AMU and Jamia Millia Islamia are universities ranked highly even by bureaucratic accreditations done under the Modi sarkar. I personally know Hindus who are economics, law or media graduates from Jamia Millia Islamia and who have had a great time there, and Hindus who studied at AMU too without any problem, notwithstanding much entirely false and sometimes blown-out-of-proportion propaganda. None other than PM Modi has personally acknowledged the high standards of research at Jamia, and indeed, people there have come up with patentable inventions. Jamia is also appreciable for using solar energy and reaching a near-zero carbon footprint, other than rainwater harvesting as also acknowledging the third gender in admission forms. The rights of minorities to administer educational institutions have been protected under Articles 29 and 30 of our constitution, as is the case with jurisprudence in many other countries, and even Pakistan has Christian colleges and now a proposed Hindu university, and the US too has a Hindu university.



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Census reports have established that Hindus are more polygamous than Muslims, even though it is illegal for the former, and I myself know a Hindu electrician in Delhi who has engaged in bigamy. Puranic lore is full of multiple marriages by a single man – to quote some prominent examples, Krishna had thousands of wives, prominent among whom were Rukmini, Satyabhama and Jambvati; his father Vasudev had two wives, Devki (Krishna‘s mother) and Rohini (Balram‘s mother), and Ram‘s father Dashrath had three wives, besides even Bheem having a wife other than Draupadi (Ghatodkach‘s mother) and Arjun too had several, including Chitrangada and Krishna‘s sister Subhadra. Also, Islam mandates a limit of four wives and a responsibility of the husband to look after his multiple wives (if he has multiple wives in the first place) equally well, though I do agree that even this is anachronistic today. As for harems, these too have not been a monopoly of Muslim rulers, and the practice has existed among Hindu rulers too, such as in South India, and even among Buddhist rulers in Sri Lanka

 

Many people in India criticise Muslims for having many children because they practise polygamy, even though that isn't very common among Muslims either and as for children, it actually doesn’t make a difference to the number of children as long as the number of reproductive women remains the same. Four women would respectively give birth to the number of children they would, irrespective of whether they are married to one man or four different men! In fact, polygamy is not prohibited by Hinduism as a faith, and, in fact, it was outlawed for Hindus only after independence, and Nehru faced stern opposition for the same from orthodox Hindus.


****See examples of practising Muslims stopping fellow Muslims from taking the law in their hands even against violent anti-Muslim extremists threatening their own lives, soon after an attack or attempted attack on innocent Muslims
 here, here and here.

 
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Speaking of apostates of Islam (“ex-Muslims”) criticising their former religion, there is a fairly well-known website run by an apostate and basher of Islam who has even offered a cash prize to anyone who can disprove his allegations against Prophet Muhammad (but there are books by apostates of other religions criticizing their former religions too, the most famous one being ‘Why I Am Not a Christian’ by Bertrand Russell, and there’s also ‘Why I am Not a Hindu’ by Kancha Ilaiah, levelling very strong allegations), but practically, he is the judge of the debate, or to go by what he is saying, the “readership” of the website, a rather non-defined entity. In fact, he has acknowledged that he came across a Muslim who “intelligently argued his case and never descended to logical fallacies or insults” and while that Islam-basher “did not manage to convince him to leave Islam”, that Muslim earned his “utmost respect”, which implies that practically, the Islam-basher is the judge of the debate. Likewise, that Islam-basher has mentioned with reference to a scholar of Islam he debated with, that the latter was “a learned man, a moderate Muslim and a good human being” and someone he (the Islam-basher) has “utmost respect for”. So, that Islam-basher’s critique of Islam, whether valid or invalid, has no relevance in terms of making blanket stereotypes about the people we know as Muslims or even practising Muslims. By the way, that Islam-basher bashes Judaism too. And it is worth mentioning that I have encountered several practising Muslims on discussion groups on the social media, who have, in a very calm and composed fashion, logically refuted the allegations against Islam on such websites. Indeed, as you can see here and here, there are several other apostates of Islam who have stated that while they have personally left Islam for good thinking that the extremist interpretations are correct and moderate ones wrong (as is the case with apostates of many other religions), they have equally explicitly emphasised that that does not in the least mean that they believe that most people identifying themselves as practising Muslims support violence against innocent people, and this applies very well to apostates like Salman Rushdie and Taslima Nasrin, who despite being largely disowned by the Muslim community and being on the hit-list of Muslim extremists (but still not retracting their criticism of Islam), spoke out fiercely against the Gujarat riots of 2002 and the Dadri incident. Rushdie opposed the idea of voting to power Modi as India’s PM and later supported the award wapsi, while Nasrin expressed horror at the prospect of the cancellation of a Ghulam Ali concert in Mumbai on Shiv Sena pressure, and she, as an atheist, has openly declared in her book 'Exile: A Memoir' that she wants not only Islam but Hinduism and all other existing religions to die out the way the Pharonoic and Olympian faiths have, but ideologically, not by denying people religious freedom.